Question:
Nurses: what kind of nursing do your specialize in?
kishoti
2008-01-15 21:42:01 UTC
Do you have a BSN, Master's or Post Graduate degree?
If you have a diploma or ADN, are you going to go back to school to finish and why?
Seven answers:
US_DR_JD
2008-01-15 22:29:15 UTC
I have a MSN with specialization as a Family Nurse Practitioner, and a Ph.D. in Health Care and Medicine Studies with a reseach emphasis on headache management.



I have been in nursing for over 30 years, and strongly feel that the only way that nursing can become a profession, and that RNs can be treated appropriately for the level of expertise they have is to have at least a BSN. Having multiple levels of entry tells the other professions in health care that RN is a trade school occupation. There are now numerous positions throughout the health care milieu which require a BSN or higher. Studies have shown better patient outcomes, satisfaction and lower overall cost will all BSN staffing. In a study active duty military RNs (who must have a BSN or higher) score significantly higher on assesments of professionalism, professional attitudes and levels of autonomy.



EDIT: Scooterz: I did not say that any one individual dependent on their degree acted less professionally. I stated that studies have shown that nurses with higher degrees, as a class, have rate higher on those scales. Oddly, as a general rule, studies show that experience in nursing has an inverse relationship with nurses level of professional attitudes and autonomy.



It has to do with the way nurses are treated, not an individual's actions. If they are perceived by the physicians and health care administrators as non-professionals, they act as non-professionals.



The concensus opinion among sociologist and researchers in professions is that nursing is not a profession. They rate Nursing as a semi-profession largely on 3 criteria 1. Less than a bachelor degree for ebtry to practice, 2. Lack of participation in professional organizations, 3. Blue-collar mentality created by hourly reimbursement. (Again, this does not say that you do not participate in your professional organizations, but that of the 3 million RNs in the US, only 190,000 are members of ANA)



Finally, regarding reimbursement of BSNs or higher vs ADNs, while your facility may not have any pay incentive for the higher degree, salary surveys conducted of RNs in the US show that the predominence od US healthcare facilities pay at least a small differential (usually $1.00 to $1.50/hr) for the BSN. Also, the predominence of major US health care organizations now have a BSN preferred or BSN or higher required for all supervisory and many other positions which pay a higher rate than those of the staff RN scale. Therefore, in general, those RNs with higher degress make a higher wage based on their position if not thier degree.



This is not a personal attack it is a statement of statistics, and a desire to see an improvement in the overall perception of nurses.



I feel ADNs perform as well, as a general statement, as BSNs when entering the RN workforce, and statistics show no significant difference on the NCLEX-RN, I just would like at this point to see nursing, advance itself, like other health care professions. The pharmacist moved their entry level in the US from BS to PharmD, the Physical Therapist over the years moved from BS to MS, PAs are slowly trying to go from 3 levels of entry (AS, BS and MS) to MS. It is a matter of advancing the profession, not a matter of saying any individual RN is not as good as any other. There simply should not be 3 levels of entry for any professional career field. Otherwise it retards the occupation's growth as a profession
scooterz1
2008-01-16 02:28:06 UTC
I have an ADN & happen to be offended that someone would be inclined to state I have less perfessionalism then a BSN. Give me a break! I happen to be CCRN, TNCC, ACLS instructor, & BLS instructor. I also assist in teaching @ my LEVEL 1 TRAUMA hospital the critical care classes to new nurses entering the critical care realm. It depends on the PERSON, not the degree someone holds in a certain field to demonstrate perfessionalism. The pay scale is not different @ my facility with the degree you have obtained. My facility rewards people for the certifcations. I do not care what degree you hold as long as the basic human caring nature shows thru w/ knowledge in the field you work whether it's critical care or med-surg. ALL nurses need to be respected!
JamesC
2008-01-16 00:39:15 UTC
I am an R.N. and I work as a civilian for the U.S. army. I currently work for an Army base in Germany. I am the nurse specialist for the Child and Youth division, which is basically a school nurse crossed with a community health nurse for the child development centers on base. I have a BSN. This job has left me a little more room to breathe as I have worked in the Emergency Room of Level 1 Trauma Center in New Jersey for 13 years and began to burn out. I get a paycheck, housing allowance, and a cost of living allowance. And I have all of Europe to experience. Plus, I'm liking a desk job!! And no, no more school for me.
Elyzabeth S
2008-01-15 22:12:07 UTC
I'm an ADN. I have zero desire to go back to further my education because I have no desire to teach or become part of administration. In most cities, having an ADN, Diploma or Bachelor's Degrees pay the same, I just wanted to go to school and work quickly.



I have worked in the Peds ICU and a busy trauma room for over 5 years. Getting a specific degree doesn't seem to matter as much as your experience once you become a nurse.
carin
2016-05-25 13:08:58 UTC
That speciality is Obstetrics, and you will find you're kind of stuck, because in OB, they DO NOT HIRE NEW GRADS OR THOSE WITHOUT PRIOR EXPERIENCE. Ever. I've been in nursing a long time, and because there is a GLUT of nurses (hasn't been a shortage in a decade), the hospitals can afford to be picky. They don't let baby nurses (what we call new grads) NEAR babies. They start them off in med-surg and telemetry. Used to be you could get into critical care as a new grad (ER/ICU), but now, even that is nearly impossible. The hospitals are barely hiring, and those that are getting jobs have a BSN, and 6 years of experience MINIMUM in their specific specialty. The schools will tell you "oh, you can name your salary, your specialty, your shift (day/night) etc etc etc...." Whoever believes that crap, I have a bridge to sell them. CHEAP. The hospitals make the rules. The schools tell people that to keep the money rolling in.
boomer gal
2008-01-16 00:37:36 UTC
I have a BSN & am certified in wound & ostomy care.
mike r
2008-01-15 21:50:44 UTC
My son is a R.N. with a B.S.N degree.He works for a Hospice.


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